After the make mkv program stopped working I thought I look at others since I was already down this rabbit hole. So here's a program called movavi.
I skipped the special pop up and finally almost got there. Then this pop up came up. The feeling on these programs are that they work off the web and not like a good old native program.
Once the program finally installed and open, this also opened on the browser which starts to really feel like you downloaded another adware program.